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Kokumono Ep 15 and comments

July 17th, 2006 (02:27 am)
cheerful

current mood: cheerful

Translation for ep 15 is now on the site. ^_^ Do tell if I left something undone or if anything's unclear. I was a bit skimpy on my last check... (I checked this time...?) ^^;; Otherwise, while reading some other sites' thoughts on the ep, I ran across a note regarding the release of the CD maxi for the closing theme song.

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B000GG4EDC/250-5822786-0472239?v=glance&n=561956&tagActionCode=aeeaee03-22

The CD Maxi is set for Aug 30 release. ^___^

Now then... of note is the post regarding changes in ep 14 since it comes in here as well.

From this episode... what doesn't exist in the novels:

- Kouyuu's and Reishin's unhappiness over how Shuurei and Eigetsu are treated
- Reishin going to the archives to see Shouka
- Shuurei talking to Kouyuu
- Kouyuu confronting Senior Sec. Sai regarding Shuurei's and Eigetsu's treatment
- Kouyuu's childhood memory of being taken in by Reishin
- Kouyuu does not make a snack for Shuurei and Eigetsu (especially considering how he'd told them not to expect any help from him or Shuuei at the end of last ep! >_<;; )
- The drinking scene between Shuuei, Kouyuu, Seiran and Ryuuki. It does however happen in the omake CD Drama.
- Kouyuu's outburst to Reishin when hungover (obvious since the drinking scene never happened either).
- Seiran asking Shouka to talk to Kouyuu (Shuuei! You lost your scene and how wonderful a friend you are to Kouyuu!!) ^^;;
- Seiran's uncertainty over his inability to do anything (I'd debated putting this into out of order, but...)
- Kouyuu confronting Shuuei over talking to Shouka. (In the novel, Kouyuu decides he's going to hit Shuuei.) ^^;;

Out of place:
- Reishin's talk with Ryuuki
- Shuurei asking Kouyuu what his wish was that supported him in climbing through the ranks
- Ro telling Sai that Shuurei's sponsor was Reishin (? I'm not entirely sure where that scene happened in the book but I vaguely recall reading it).
- Shouka talking to Kouyuu happens during the afternoon
- Ryuuki gives Eigetsu the little package much earlier on.


The episode starts off with Kouyuu being very concerned over Shuurei and Eigetsu's treatment at the hands of the other court officials. In the archives, Shuuei teases him a touch about being so down and comments how Reishin is likely to give Ryuuki a piece or three or more.... of his mind. And sure enough, Reishin is talking to Ryuuki about how when unsure of how to assign people, an observation period is used to see how the new shinshi are. After talking to Ryuuki, Reishin goes to the archives hoping to see Shouka and Kouyuu feels a bit depressed seeing how Reishin so clearly loves Shouka.

First is the bit between Ryuuki and Reishin. In the novels, that occurred at the very beginning of the story before the top shinshi were even assigned to the courts for two months. At that point, it's revealed that both Reishin and Kouyuu have both been through that exceptional assignment, so they should likewise be aware of the purpose of the assignments and their true worth, meaning, and value. Indeed Reishin has apparently more than made good use of his stint in the stables. ^^;; If you want a hint, pay attention to what's happening in the background in ep 14 when Shuurei's cleaning the toilets or Eigetsu's polishing shoes. ^___^

And so, Reishin's and Kouyuu's actions in this episode don't make much sense. Reishin's especially, although I'm sure Kouyuu realised the merits of his assignment when he went through things.

In the novel after the dinner, Kouyuu told Shuurei not to expect help from either Shuuei or himself. This is important because, being at the bottom of the ladder, Shuurei has to fight her way up. Kouyuu and Shuuei can't help her and neither can Ryuuki because it will completely undermine her. Hence last ep when Shuurei stops Kijin and Yuuri in the walkway makes no sense. She shouldn't be so presumptuous as to speak so brazenly with someone so much higher ranked than herself.

This then ties in with what we miss in the scene between Shuuei and Kouyuu. The scene actually takes place in Kouyuu's office and Shuuei comments how his office was really something since he'd taken on Ryuuki's work as well. Shuuei then notices a scroll that has a woman's image on it and realises that it's a marriage proposal that was sent to Kouyuu. He remembers how Kouyuu originally didn't hate women, but after having passed as Jougen and being chased around so much by people wanting him to marry into their families, Kouyuu became very jaded about women. Shuuei remembers having hunted Kouyuu down several times to rescue him from such situations. Apparently Reishin had been so amused by what was happening that he didn't try to help Kouyuu. ^^;;

Shuuei looks at the image on the scroll and recognizes the woman and comments how that person hadquite the nerve in continuing to offer his daughter in marriage despite the things he'd faced from both Reishin and Kouyuu. Kouyuu defensively argues that what happened wasn't by his will but because he'd been told to, but Shuuei tells him the one who carried out the action was still Kouyuu... Shuuei still remembers when Kouyuu so beautifully sent the toupee flying off the man and how it then flew perfectly ending up catching fire and turning to ash in an instant. That man then screamed like it was the end of the world and everyone burst out laughing. Shuuei realised once again how scary Reishin would be to have as an enemy. ^^;;

Kouyuu asks Shuuei if he'd come for a reason to his office and Shuuei remembers that he'd come to tell Kouyuu that he'd received a letter from Ensei. Apparently Ensei had left Sa Province and would arrive in a month and a half and that Kourin was with him. Kourin was coming both to report on the Sa Clan as well as to see Shuurei, and so Shuuei was wondering what Kouyuu thought and whether they should tell Shuurei everything about what had happened when she was in the Imperial Residence. Kouyuu tells Shuuei that things were different now and that Shuurei was an official now and should be told.

Shuuei reminds Kouyuu that for all that he supposedly learned what women were truly like, that Shuurei was also a woman. Kouyuu says that Shuurei's a pupil and isn't included in with "women" in his mind. Shuuei tells him that even so, Shuurei is still a woman and that Kouyuu only learned what some women were like.

Shuuei then comments how Shuurei's really working hard and how it's a shame that they haven't been able to see her smile at all. Since she'd been assigned to the courts, Kouyuu and Shuuei were refraining from visiting Shouka's home and that even if they should run into her on the palace grounds, she automatically averted her face and gave way to them. Since Shuuei felt lonely about being treated that way, he says it's a good thing that Kouyuu agreed to take on so much of Ryuuki's work so that he could play guard to Shuurei and Eigetsu as it would have been a seriously blow to him to be treated that way by Shuurei. ^^;;

When Shuuei leaves Kouyuu, he wonders if Kouyuu realises his and Shuurei's position. Reishin has no children. All he has is an adopted child whom he gave the last name "Li". Shuurei is the eldest daughter to who should have been the head of the clan and the strongest blood ties to the family. And within the family itself, there are very few children who could potentially take over the family name. The one thing Shuuei didn't know was why Reishin refused to give Kouyuu the Kou name.

***** most likely going to happen next episode but originally leads to Kouyuu becoming depressed *****

We really don't get a feel for how much work Shuurei and Eigetsu are doing in the anime. Essentially they're working around the clock and only grabbing perhaps a couple of hours between finishing their work and reporting for their morning duties. Next ep will likely go into a bit of this though.

Since the first day they'd left for work, Eigetsu and Shuurei have never once been able to go home for the night and have instead been spending all their time in the archives. (At the same time, Shouka (and Seiran too) hasn't been back home either and has instead been watching over Shuurei and Eigetsu. On the tenth straight day of this, Shuurei opens the door to the archives and finds two trays with food and tea outside the door. The trays have always appeared since day one at some point and while at first they didn't touch the food, Ryuuki was sure it was safe and so they ate it. From the taste, Shuurei knew that it definitely wasn't her father's doing, and when she asked, Ryuuki told her it wasn't him.

Shuurei then goes to deliver the work she and Eigetsu had finished and while she's out, Eigetsu carefully pulls out a small bottle and sprinkles a fresh handkerchief with the liquid and carefully wipes his hands. He then puts on some thin gloves and picks out several scrolls and starts copying the work onto fresh paper and destroys most of the originals and when he's done, he resumes his work. Eigetsu is unaware that he'd been watched the whole time by Shouka.

Shuurei then heads to the Dept of Protocol to deliver their work when she gets ambushed by other officials who throw dirt balls at her. However, since Shuurei had taught kids at the temple, she was used to this sort of thing, and after carefully putting the papers aside safely, she easily avoided their attack and hid behind a pillar. As she considers her options behind the pillar, the attack suddenly stops and when she peeks she sees the various officials looking very pale and staring behind her. Following there gaze she finds Kouyuu standing behind her along with Senior Sec. Sai. Since the hall is now an utter disaster, Shuurei is ordered to clean up the mess by Ro and everyone else is ordered to stay away from there until clean-up is complete.

Seiran comes out while Shuurei surveys the mess and fights back her tears. Being attacked by the mudballs wasn't only an attach against her as a female but against her as a person and that she herself was meaningless. Having fought back her tears, Shuurei's finally able to look up only to find Seiran there. However, Shuurei immediately tells him to go because he'll spoil her and she'll end up crying even though she'd decided she wouldn't cry over what happened.

The rest of that scene was described earlier elsewhere here

Hidden from Shuurei, Shuuei restrains Ryuuki from going out into the fray. In a rare instance of anger, Shuuei raises his voice to Ryuuki and tells him that if he went out there right now, everything that Shuurei had fought for up until then would be for nothing and that no one will ever see for who she is, but instead see Ryuuki and his power, and that was why they'd sent Kouyuu out in the first place. Up until now, regardless of what they may have heard or seen, Shuuei and Kouyuu didn't do anything to help Shuurei because it would undermine her. The only people who can help her at this point are her fellow exam mates. Instead Shuuei reminds Ryuuki that there's something that he has to take care of now - to put out an official notice that treating a female official as a servant would be punishable by immediate dismissal up to exile from the province.

***** Next ep tidbit then happens *****

After cleaning up the hall, Eigetsu and Shuurei barely manage to get to morning assembly and when they stagger to take their place, Heki Hakumei steps in and tells Ro that he's taking Shuurei and Eigetsu to a separate room to get some sleep. Ro confronts him saying that there's this thing called work hours but Haku tells him that Eigetsu and Shuurei have been working well beyond standard work hours for some time now. When asked if he would take their place at their morning duties, Haku readily agrees and starts dragging Shuurei and Eigetsu off. When Ro tries to stop him over morning announcements / work detail, Haku cuts him off saying that it was done perfectly and leaves.

***** End of bit *****

The story then flashes back to Kouyuu having received some fresh new clothes at the Dept of Protocol and he thinks over what Sai had said to him. (Much of the conversation is the same as had happened after Shuurei had spoken to Kouyuu by the river). Reishin then finds him and asks him what he's doing standing there. (Conversation between Kouyuu and Reishin regarding someone being sent from the mainhouse) and Kouyuu asks Reishin what he'd do if he decided to go on a world-wide training trip for dim sum (tsu tsu ura ura tenshin shugyou). Reishin looks at him oddly and comments that it would probably take Kouyuu half him lifetime to reach that first "tsu" (port).

***** More most likely from next episode *****

The story continues with officials starting to change their attitude towards Shuurei (next ep stuffs) and a short scene with Kochou. There's then a brief scene between Ryuuki, Shuuei and Kouyuu who discuss a fake ring that has come into their possession and Ryuuki wonders if the original ring itself was real or a fake. Ryuuki then asks Shuuei if his brothers ever said anything about the civil war of nine years ago, and Shuuei recalls that they'd once said that the courts became young again (ie most of the chief positions were suddenly taken up by very capable but young people. Kouyuu is a prime example of that). Ryuuki admits that he'd only realised that recently and wonders about whether in the early years if his father truly was ill. While he knew it was real later on, Ryuuki hadn't seen his father during the early years of his illness. Ryuuki then seriously wonders what had caused Sa Taiho to do as he had in the first story as it doesn't seem to fit with his character.

In the archives, as Shuurei goes through her work, she realises that something is very strange and Eigetsu comments that something's off with his work as well. The two then compare notes and look at what the other was doing and realise that they're looking at something dealing with the same department. They then decide to use that as their homework assignemtn for Ro. Haku then comes to the archives to help out with their work. Apparently, since that day when Haku took Shuurei and Eigetsu off to get some sleep, he'd been helping them out with their other work as well. When Ro confronts Haku over helping Shuurei and Eigetsu since he'd assigned that work to them, Haku tells Ro that he was bored and had finished his own work and decided to help them on their own and that they hadn't asked.

As they work in the archives, Haku gives Shuurei and Eigetsu a piece of his mind for having screwed up his plans (Haku really admires Kouyuu and was aiming to follow in his footsteps). Shuuei comes in to the archives bringing in a tray he'd found outside the door which now contains food for three and comments how it brings back memories of his own year. Shuuei can't help smiling as Haku yells at Eigetsu that more than eating sweets (what was on the tray) he needed to learn how to drink alcohol first, and he then goes off to find Shouka and tells him he has a favour to ask of him.

The next day, thanks to Haku helping out, Shuurei and Eigetsu are able to go home for the first time in a month. The instant they step inside, they both fall asleep on the floor and Shouka and Seiran take them to their rooms.

********** End novel explanation for now **********

And finally we hit Shouka-papa's scene with Seiran! >_<;;



Eek that was long background lead up to this point. I'll go into the wonders of Shouka-papa tomorrow though. ^^;;

Comments

Posted by: Too cute for evil (ginny_t)
Posted at: July 17th, 2006 09:01 am (UTC)
can't brain today maker unknown

Wow! That's a lot of difference.

*glomps* Thank you so much for writing it all out!

Shouka-papa is indeed wondrous!

Yay! Haku! *is puzzled by some things*

*cry* I've watched ep 14 several times, and even watched the bathroom/shoe shine scenes again since you said to look at the background, and nothing *cry!*

I read the translation, and that drinking scene hurts even more now. Poor Kouyuu! Poor Seiran. *frets* Don't want him to crack. *pets Seiran*

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: July 17th, 2006 08:03 pm (UTC)

^^;; I should've been a bit more precise. The aspect I was referring to (and which Reishin especially took advantage of later on) can be sussed out from the background conversation. In the scenes where you have two officials present, they start to gossip amongst each other. Eigetsu and Shuurei realising this is revealed late in the story when they make use of the information they gathered. There are some other reasons which are more important for when they're actually officials but that should be revealed at the end of the story as well... hopefully. Reishin's and Kouyuu's attitude puts that into a bit of question though. :/

Posted by: Too cute for evil (ginny_t)
Posted at: July 17th, 2006 08:10 pm (UTC)
Momiji secret

oh, okay yeah. I heard the conversational bits. ^_^

With that being the Sa ring, does that mean that Ensei is coming back? (I'm perplexed by this fondness for him - I don't usually like scruffy men. I spent all of the LotR movies telling Aragorn to wash.)

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: July 17th, 2006 09:00 pm (UTC)

*laughs* Ensei is indeed coming back soon. Most likely at the end of this story and I expect he'll be there for most of the rest of the series. ^___^ I really like Ensei and while most likely he'll be out of the next novel (11), I expect he'll be back sooner or later again. At least that's what's been hinted at anyways. ^___^

Posted by: sagittarius00 (sagittarius00)
Posted at: July 17th, 2006 10:01 am (UTC)
saiunkoku

*cries too* I've also checked that particular scene but didn't see anything out of the ordinary in the background.

Shadow I hope you don't mind some more questions..

- Does Shuurei knows Shouka was an assassin? How come she hadn't realized Reishin is her uncle, couldn't she tell from his last name?
- What was the ring they're talking about in ep.13 or was it 14?Will it be important in the later episodes?
- In the anime, am I the only one seeing a hint of KouyuuxShuurei? At least on Kouyuu's POV..At this point, with no hope of SeiranxShuurei I wouldn't mind Kouyuu.. It's not surprising if he's the one you were hinting about the marriage proposal XDXDXD

The scene with Shouka...I almost cried. Kouyuu has so much angst am glad he's gotten over it thanks to Shouka.

hee...It seemed everyone's watching over Shuurei.

I hate all those officials making Shuurei's training a hell lot difficult >-<.

- Are we going to find out what happened during the civil war?

It's fine they include some scenes from the omakes but there sure are a lot of differences in the main story. btw- How far are you now in the novel?Have you read vol.10 already?

*Seiran fangirl mode*

*swoons* Seiran saying if she can't take it anymore just come to him not for her sake but his *spazzed* waaah..he's so sweet!!*doki doki*

Thank you so much again Shadow for taking time to write the differences..

oh,..I do like the ending theme better than the OP.

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: July 17th, 2006 08:53 pm (UTC)

^^;; Yup. I should've been more specific. As I mentioned to Ginny, officials would gossip in those sorts of places. The unfairness and massive workload serves another purpose though. ^^;;

- Does Shuurei knows Shouka was an assassin? How come she hadn't realized Reishin is her uncle, couldn't she tell from his last name?
To the best of my knowledge, Shuurei doesn't know about Shouka being an assassin. As for Reishin, remember, they haven't been formally introduced and she doesn't even know his name. For whatever reason, she doesn't even know that the Senior Secretary of Civil Affairs is from the Kou family until book... 7? 8? when she comes back to the capital. Remember, Shouka was essentially exiled from Kou Province when Shuurei was ~3 after which they lived in Shi Province. Shuurei's probably never been back to Kou Province and doesn't know who the rest of her family is and she was too young to remember Reishin or Kurou when they left.

- What was the ring they're talking about in ep.13 or was it 14?Will it be important in the later episodes?
All we know about the ring so far is that it's the symbol of the Sa clan leader. If they follow the storyline with that, then it will play a role... not in the next story, but in the one thereafter.

- In the anime, am I the only one seeing a hint of KouyuuxShuurei? At least on Kouyuu's POV..At this point, with no hope of SeiranxShuurei I wouldn't mind Kouyuu.. It's not surprising if he's the one you were hinting about the marriage proposal XDXDXD

Wait until Kurou comes out and tells Shouka his plans. The major hint being "Liki" 李姫

- Are we going to find out what happened during the civil war?

So far, other than the odd mention, very little about it has been revealed. :/ One thing about the previous emperor, for all that he was considered a great leader his reign was quite bloody with a fair amount of fighting IIRC.

It's fine they include some scenes from the omakes but there sure are a lot of differences in the main story. btw- How far are you now in the novel?Have you read vol.10 already?

^^;; I've been reading bits and pieces here and there, but I've glanced through all the books. Just not all the details. (I still haven't sat down and read everything about Eiki, Shunki, or Kokujun which is bad since Eiki and Shunki tie in to the Hyou clan). ^^;

BTW, according to one site, the next novel will be out in Sept. Can't wait! *___*

Posted by: Simply NANA (toriru4ever)
Posted at: July 17th, 2006 10:48 pm (UTC)

waiiiiiiiii so shouko got another brother?
i'm curious as to why he was exiled and why reishin was chose the head of family over shouka and kurou . Is reishin the youngest of the 3 brothers?

ahhh you're so lucky to be able to read the novels T___T

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: July 18th, 2006 12:00 am (UTC)

Yup. Shouka wasn't entirely exiled per se but he was virtually kicked out of Kou Province. Kurou's the one behind Shouka being passed over becoming the next head of the clan (although Shouka was more than happy to accept that). He's very much like Reishin except that he hates Shouka. He also doesn't know about Shouka IIRC. Reishin's the second child and probably the most capable of the brothers which is why Kurou pushed for Reishin to become the clan leader (although it's Kurou's doing that Reishin couldn't get out of becoming head of the clan).

Kurou will do whatever he has to for the family but is also a very straight forward person. For all that he hates Shouka, Shouka is still the eldest child of the direct line for his generation and Kurou is very particular about such traditional thinking. And since it's a very minor point that has only been given one or two lines in the entire novel series... Kurou has a son - Hakuyuu. I *think* Hakuyuu has a love interest "Sera-hime".

Posted by: Simply NANA (toriru4ever)
Posted at: July 18th, 2006 12:13 am (UTC)

umm interesting i was gonna ask next...
about the Kou brothers family life like marriage and children.
ok so you've answered kurou and we know about shouka's family unit..
but Reishin...aside from adopting kouyu has he been married? is there a reason he's avoiding having children of his own? :)lol

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: July 18th, 2006 12:46 am (UTC)

Reishin's married. His wife is the woman who dumped Kijin and the day they married is the day Kijin started wearing masks. ^^;;

According to Shouka, Reishin doesn't care for the Kou family and, rather than not being able to have children, most likely Reishin doesn't want to have children. It's another way for him to get back at the family for what they did to Shouka and making him head of the clan. The same is true for Reishin being in Shi Province and being part of the Imperial Court rather than living in Kou Province.

Posted by: Simply NANA (toriru4ever)
Posted at: July 18th, 2006 12:49 am (UTC)

OMG HOW COULD HE DO THAT TO HIS BESTFRIEND????? O.o!!!
lol umm so i guess he's not sleeping with his wife or something cuz they didn't have birthcontrol back than neee (maybe herbals...)

now i'm curious to read more about reishin, kijin and this mystery woman ^___^;;

Posted by: sagittarius00 (sagittarius00)
Posted at: July 18th, 2006 04:48 am (UTC)
renji

Looks like the Kou Clan's pretty messed up ^^;;

Posted by: sagittarius00 (sagittarius00)
Posted at: July 18th, 2006 04:43 am (UTC)
yoga

aahhh..I understand..When she was in the palace, I just thought with all her time studying with Ryuuki and Kouyuu she might have known the names of the officials..

waiii...'LiKi' meaning Kouyuu yay!^-^With that he might not be thinking of marrying ever..lol

I see there are more characters coming up^^;;

*is so jealous* you have all the books with you p_p

I've read in one of your post/replies, Reishin's wife was Kijin's ex?O_O I mean doesn't he have any grudge towards Reishin?It's kinda painful to be bestfriends with the one who took away your girl..me thinks..No wonder he wears mask to hide his sadness...poor Kijin a_a *pets*

Thanks once again Shadow ^-^

Posted by: sagittarius00 (sagittarius00)
Posted at: July 18th, 2006 04:47 am (UTC)
nana

I'm such a dork..I meant the girl who rejected him not-> EX-girlfriend^^;;

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: July 19th, 2006 07:29 pm (UTC)

waiii...'LiKi' meaning Kouyuu yay!^-^With that he might not be thinking of marrying ever..lol
This is one of the most popular pairings in the J crowd from the sites I've visited. Poor guy though. Could you imagine Reishin's reaction to Kouyuu marrying Shuurei considering how protective he is of her. Adopted son or not... ^^;;

I see there are more characters coming up^^;;

>_<;; There are so many characters in this series. There are lots more to come again when the story changes locations. It might be hard to keep them straight for a bit if you're not careful. ^^;;

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: July 19th, 2006 07:31 pm (UTC)

>_<;; Hit post too soon. Sorry.

I've read in one of your post/replies, Reishin's wife was Kijin's ex?O_O I mean doesn't he have any grudge towards Reishin?It's kinda painful to be bestfriends with the one who took away your girl..me thinks..No wonder he wears mask to hide his sadness...poor Kijin a_a *pets*

I don't know if I'd quite call them best friends, but they do share a certain bond because they went through the national exams together. ^^;; I think it says something of Kijin's personality as well that he'd continue wearing a mask like that for ~10 years too though. He is, in his own right, a strange person. ^^;;

Posted by: TsubasaYuShin (seijie)
Posted at: July 21st, 2006 10:07 pm (UTC)

This might be spoiling things so I warn ppl first.


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SPOILERS!SPOILERS!SPOILERS!SPOILERS!SPOILERS!SPOILERS!SPOILERS!




From a later episode, it's revealed that there's a rather intimate relationship (sorry, not in that way) between Reishin and Kijin. Reishin's wife is Kijin's ex? It seems that Kijin is looking for a wife and actually contemplates taking Shuurei as his own to which Reishin immediately and rather vehemently objects.If it is that Reishin's wife is Kijin's ex, the closeness of their relationship is a bit weird. Plus, it's revealed that Reishin makes Kijin's eccentric masks for him as well. Clarify please?

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: July 22nd, 2006 12:25 pm (UTC)

Reishin and Kijin's relationship is a lot like Shuuei's and Kouyuu's, or Seiran's and Ensei's - they understand and mutually respect one another, but at the same time, they clash too. Reishin's wife is the woman who rejected Kijin, not necessarily his "ex" as it were. Both sagittarius00 and I misspoke on that although sagittarius00 corrected themself on it. ^^; Kijin pokes fun at Reishin about taking Shuurei as his wife a few times at least; potentially more. However, whether he's actually serious about it...? As for Kijin's masks, I don't think that's happening in canon - at least I don't remember having read it there (he brings does bring them and give them tries to give them to him though. Also, I might easily have missed it being mentioned). Reishin doesn't strike me as the type, although the Shouka masks... O_O;;

Posted by: TsubasaYuShin (seijie)
Posted at: July 24th, 2006 12:57 am (UTC)

Ahh. I missed that correction - that makes a bit more sense now.Thanks for pointing that out. Best friends usually do clash simply because mutual respect demands and warrants it. Shouka wears masks? O.o Or do you mean his facade (Black Wolf)? It shall be interesting to see how this drama unfolds - for now, it seems it's staying rather true to the level of palace intrigue and drama. I also sense politics shifting underneath as well.

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: July 24th, 2006 11:35 pm (UTC)

Shouka wears masks?

No, but... in the last book (2nd short story volume, first story), there's a side story just after the exams were finished while Ryuuren was in the capital. In the story, Reishin visits Kijin with some new masks. The masks are of Shouka with different expressions and are so lifelike that it's almost like someone had literally lifted Shouka's face and put it on a mask. It's pretty funny because Kijin couldn't treat the masks badly because it almost felt like he would doing so to Shouka himself. ^^;;

Posted by: TsubasaYuShin (seijie)
Posted at: July 25th, 2006 11:14 am (UTC)

O.o. Wow, the novels have a lot more information and go much more in-depth. Everyone in this universe is just a bit off-kilter. ^_^;; Thanks for the "behind-the-scenes" info! Really appreciate it!

Posted by: Too cute for evil (ginny_t)
Posted at: July 17th, 2006 08:56 pm (UTC)
exultation (ladytalon - obsessiveicons)

He hasn't told her his name. The only time she sees him is when he tells her to call him "oji-chan". The rest of the time, we see him with other people, not her.

Posted by: The Hamster Of Death (vampyrichamster)
Posted at: July 18th, 2006 02:04 pm (UTC)

I found it interesting that Ryuuki gave Eigetsu an Imperial stamp. It happens a lot in court dramas - Imperial stamps though, are not things to be trifled with, and Ryuuki must really trust Eigetsu. That weird way in which he helped Eigetsu at the red light district before suggests Eigetsu is by and far no normal candidate. Though the last episode conveniently didn't tell us why the Emperor would intervene directly into a candidate from a poor village's life...

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: July 19th, 2006 07:50 pm (UTC)

One of the things we didn't find out in the anime but is revealed in the novels is that the top two candidates for each province are all put under surreptitious guard when they entered the capital for the Kaishi test, but especially with regards to the top candidates from Koku, Heki and Ran provinces as well as to Shuurei.

In the anime, we're not really seeing any unusual activity on Eigetsu's part, but one of the things we see in the novel is that for some reason, Eigetsu's a bit clumsy and drops the chopsticks every time he, Shuurei and Ryuuki have lunch and he wipes them off carefully with a handkerchief. Ryuuki can't openly protect Shuurei at this time, not only because Shuurei need to do things herself to be accepted, but also because she doesn't have any status during this period so if she were to "disappear", Ryuuki has no official reason to do anything.

Posted by: The Hamster Of Death (vampyrichamster)
Posted at: July 24th, 2006 09:21 am (UTC)

I wonder what Eigetsu's hygienic habits are supposed to indicate. *ponders* He's still an odd character by me. His appearance was quite sudden, and the anime has definitely not helped in just rushing him by us. I don't entirely trust him...

Is there a top candidate from Ran province we're meant to meet at some point?

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: July 24th, 2006 11:40 pm (UTC)

I wonder what Eigetsu's hygienic habits are supposed to indicate. *ponders* He's still an odd character by me. His appearance was quite sudden, and the anime has definitely not helped in just rushing him by us. I don't entirely trust him...

Eigetsu has his own issues and he's dropped pretty suddenly on the readers too. At the same time as his clumsiness, Shuurei noticed that the tea she was drinking tasted a bit strange too. ^^;

We've met the top candidate from Ran province already. Him and his iron flute. Of course he did go skipping out shortly after the exams. ^^;;

Posted by: The Hamster Of Death (vampyrichamster)
Posted at: July 25th, 2006 11:43 am (UTC)

*foreheadslap* I should've been able to make the connection between Ran Ryuuren and Ran Province, shouldn't I? Thanks! ;)

*starts to wonder if Eigetsu is up to no good*

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