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Translation Theft Never a Pretty Picture

May 5th, 2010 (04:32 am)
annoyed

current mood: annoyed

First off, I need to give a big thank you to sekitx2 for letting me know about my translations 1, 2, 3 for a couple of Ono Fuyumi's doujinshi stories being posted to fanfiction.net. Obviously, it wasn't posted by myself (my ff.net account name is the same as this blog's - kagedreams), and no, I would never give someone permission to post those translations there or anywhere else let alone in that matter. FWIW, I did write to ff.net on the weekend but have yet to hear anything from them, and they obviously haven't pulled the piece as yet. Quite frankly it boggles the mind that anyone would be so stupid as to do something like that, but... heaven knows what sort of people exist in this world.

The problem of the person's blog is something that I haven't dealt with yet. I did go through it, and noticed the GH translations, but I didn't recall having ever translated those parts of GH. (I've done bits from that volume, but I didn't recognise the translation itself.) In fact, it's not mine. It was stolen from the Baka-Tsuki GH novel translation project. There is one post stolen from here (with the same post title?? WTF?!) but that's all I've found to date. However, there are a number of locked posts that I can't read, so who knows what else might be on there. :/ A copy of lkk's GH essay was also there. From what I've read, the social networking site does seem to have a standard TOU that covers intellectual rights to what you post which presumably would cover blog posts and internet materials, but... I'm not finding any sort of complaint/abuse email for the site. :(

As for my translations and this blog... to be honest, translation theft just leaves me feeling annoyed and sick and is incredibly de-motivating. At this time, I have no intention of locking down my translations or posts on this blog. Those who followed my translations for FB know what happened to those including their being yanked, replaced with summaries, f-locked, and eventually stopped. FB was by far the worst I experienced in terms of blatant disregard to the translator's wishes and is not something I would care to revisit. (I wonder if things could get worse than what happened with that. :/ ) In any case, we'll see what, if anything, ff.net does about the piece or if I need to write to them again asking for the piece's removal. Some sort of response from them would be nice, but I don't know how quickly they do or do not move on these sorts of issues.

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Posted by: Ysabet (umadoshi)
Posted at: May 5th, 2010 12:34 pm (UTC)
Haru colored (domlandbubbles)

Ugh, that really sucks. >.< I hope ff.net responds.

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 07:08 am (UTC)

Yeah, so do I. What's really ugly is that it's supposedly the second such incident with this user in April. (Apparently the thing was posted late last month.) Not a good sign that's for sure.

Posted by: yamikakyuu (yamikakyuu)
Posted at: May 5th, 2010 01:03 pm (UTC)
gh//naru//annoyed

I remember it took a few days for them to remove LKK's stolen GH essay from ff.net after we all reported it. Itll probably come down soon, (I hope) if not we'll keep reporting it. This girl seems to do it alot sadly...

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 07:12 am (UTC)

Cheers. I didn't realise that the person posted '2 chapters' so I missed reporting one link in my original email. Hopefully they'll yank it soon though. I would think that after being reported once that a user would be put on probation on an internal offenders list as it were. As it is, I wonder if lkk's essay was yanked by ff.net or if maybe it was taken down by the account holder...?

Posted by: LKK (lkk)
Posted at: May 5th, 2010 01:41 pm (UTC)
gh_naru_green

Yami's right. It took a couple of days for ff.net to remove my essay. I reported it on April 3 & it came down by the 5th. I never received any response from ff.net about the issue although I was certainly hoping for it.

I saw that my essay was on her personal blog. But like you, I couldn't find any way to report its theft to the site. If you find out anything more, let me know so that I can report my essay too, okay?

Posted by: Kakurenbo (akinarei)
Posted at: May 5th, 2010 08:01 pm (UTC)

We might have to create the account in order to report her.

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 07:22 am (UTC)

Ugh, I hope not. I'm not fond of social networking sites and don't really care for using one of my emails (fangirl or otherwise) to get on there. :/

Posted by: Kakurenbo (akinarei)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 07:59 am (UTC)

If it came to that I've probably got a dead one that you could use. ::shrugs::

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 11:38 am (UTC)

I can`t remember exactly, but I *think* you need a Yahoo account to get started on there...? I'll be looking into an abuse report to that site next. (I should also contact Baka-Tsuki's GH team about this.)

Posted by: Kakurenbo (akinarei)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 05:32 pm (UTC)

What a happy little coincidence! I have a dead yahoo account.

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 07:20 am (UTC)

Thanks for the note on how long it took. ^_^ But yeah, not hearing anything (even a standard form letter) from ff.net is a bit disappointing. I wonder how many such plagiarism complaints they deal with per day/week there. :/

Yeah. I seriously need to just sit down and read through the TOU for the site a bit more carefully. They did have a list of emails, and I think one was a general help type one, so I might send an inquiry asking about putting in a complaint against one of their users and content removal request. I'm pretty sure there must be some policy in place since most such sites have definite policies about adult content etc which would suggest they must have people who look into TOU violations. In any case, I'll let you know more once I know more as well. ^_^

Posted by: LKK (lkk)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 12:14 pm (UTC)
gh_read fist

I'll let you know more once I know more as well. ^_^
Thanks!

Posted by: Because loving ONE Seki-sama isn't good enough! (sekitx2)
Posted at: May 5th, 2010 05:06 pm (UTC)
Che

Been more than a few days since I reported it to ff.net. But maybe they only pay attention if the owner (you) reports it? :(

No idea what to do about the blog sadly.

Don't want to see your GH translations vanish.

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 07:29 am (UTC)

I don't know, it's always possible. Even so though, I reported it on... Sat? Not too long after you sent me the note. I hope I don't have to go all 'officious' as illustrated in their example complete with scanned signature?! Will re-email them if they don't respond/take it down by the 1 week mark.

The translations are staying put for now. FB was a nasty situation, and while GH did have some weirdness happen too, for the most part, I dislike the idea of everyone else having to suffer because of one idiot's complete lack of respect and stupidity.

Posted by: Because loving ONE Seki-sama isn't good enough! (sekitx2)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 03:46 pm (UTC)
NyankoTorchit

I said in my e-mail to ff.net that her Ch1 = post of yours and Ch2 = other post of yours. Also mentioned she had been guilty of posting lkk's essay. You'd think multiple reports on her from different people would get their attention... Fingers crossed.

If need a yahoo account, I have one (and never use but need for Yahoo groups).

Posted by: Kakurenbo (akinarei)
Posted at: May 5th, 2010 08:00 pm (UTC)

Last I checked on ff.net it was still up there, even though it's been reported.

Are you going to report the theft to stop_plagiarism?

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 07:42 am (UTC)

Hmm... not familiar with the community, but it might be helpful here. Especially since there's more than just my translations but other translations and lkk's essay that have been stolen and posted to the blog, too. Another place for me to read through. ^^;

Posted by: Kakurenbo (akinarei)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 08:00 am (UTC)

Let us know how that one goes! I would dearly love to see this person listed as a known plagiarist.

Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 11:33 am (UTC)

I submitted a report, so we'll see what they say when they review it. It's weird reporting fan-translations/summaries and an essay. I suspect the majority of what's lifted would normally be fanfics and fanart. ^^; As it is, getting all the info together sure does take time even though it was only a handful of caps. (I didn't cap the original sources, just the copied stuff.) BTW, do you know if this is the same person that stole lkk's essay originally? I didn't read about it at the time and only learned about the incident afterward.

Posted by: LKK (lkk)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 12:19 pm (UTC)
gh_dreams

BTW, do you know if this is the same person that stole lkk's essay originally?
Both this chick & the one who originally stole my essay are from Portugual. So I'd say the odds of it being the same girl are pretty high. I can't say for sure if the online names are the same because I don't remember the 1st person's name. I just remember that she was from Portugual because it isn't often I see people from Portugual online.

Posted by: Kakurenbo (akinarei)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 05:32 pm (UTC)

Ah, I wasn't absolutely sure, since I learned about it after the fact.

Posted by: Kakurenbo (akinarei)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 05:29 pm (UTC)

I would say it's probable that she stole the essay, but I'm not sure. Like you, I learned about it after the fact.

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Posted by: Shadow (kagedreams)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 07:44 am (UTC)

Yeah, it's definitely never a pleasant experience. >.> We can always hope it won't take too long to get things taken care of.

Posted by: Because loving ONE Seki-sama isn't good enough! (sekitx2)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 04:27 pm (UTC)
IT'S GONE
N&M M11

By her or ff.net, dunno
http://www.fanfiction.net/u/2122435/Ringo_Satou

Philippines, not Portugal (if profile to be believed)

Posted by: Kakurenbo (akinarei)
Posted at: May 6th, 2010 05:31 pm (UTC)
Re: IT'S GONE

Looks like she took the story down. I guess too many people reported abuse and plagiarism.

Posted by: Kakurenbo (akinarei)
Posted at: May 7th, 2010 02:09 am (UTC)

*grins* They took it! stop_plagiarism took the case! That's awesome!

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